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ICWF "Off The Ropes" Report with Peter Hartin – June 23rd, 2008 Edition
Welcome to the second interview edition of ICWF "Off the Ropes" Report. My guest for this interview is none other than Jagger. I’d like to start by thanking Jagger for taking the time out of his busy schedule to answer the questions I have made for him. To start off Jagger I’d like to know just how you got interested in professional wrestling?
Jagger: My earliest memories of wrestling were watching NWA at a neighbor’s house. I remember Ric Flair and Roddy Piper and The Andersons. I remember always being a fan of the "bad guys"!!! I was such a mark that I actually wrote Vince McMahon a letter when I was 16 or 17, telling him how much he need me on his roster! Then at about 18, I saw an indy show at West Carteret High School run by a guy named David Dawson. I kept in contact with him and CW Anderson for about a year until Dave moved to Newport and started training me and some of the other boys.
I wouldn’t blame you for writing a letter to Vince McMahon, you would be a great addition to the roster if you secured a WWE Developmental deal or even a TNA Contract. You mentioned David Dawson training you and others. How many years have you been wrestling and how many matches do you think you’ve had since starting your career.
Jagger: I have been in the business for over 10 years and have wrestled in front of 2 people in a high school gym and I have wrestled in front of several thousands at the ECW Arena for "Break the Barrier". As far as how many matches, I would say that due to my family life, I haven’t wrestled as many matches as most have in a 10-year career…maybe 120 on the generous end.
That’s certainly a wide range of how many fans you have performed in front of. Speaking of a large fan base like ECW, but what about if you were given the choice between a WWE contract and a TNA contract, which would you choose and why?
Jagger: I would choose TNA. Again, due to my family, I would never accept a WWE contract. Even for a million dollars, I couldn’t be on the road 300 days a year and miss my family growing up. Those guys have a ROUGH schedule.
The WWE Superstars certainly have a rough schedule. Always on the road away from their family and loved ones. The champions have it even rougher as the WWE expects more dedication and hard work from them. You’ve been tag team champions with Scab as Anarchy Now numerous times. But what I want to know is which tag team championship reign meant the most to you and why?
Jagger: I would have to say CRASH, because those are the last ones that we will EVER have. As you know, Scab has retired from wrestling, so after 10 years, that was our last ride as tag champs.
It certainly was a glorious reign with all the controversy added to it as well. Seeing Scab retire after an amazing career is a loss for the wrestling business. However, while Anarchy Now was dominant as a tag team I don’t recall you and Scab ever facing the Underworld, which was also a dominant force in the tag team division. Why is that?
Jagger: Actually, young Peter, you haven’t done your homework on this one. In the match that Anarchy Now won the ICWF Tag Team Titles, we faced The Underworld and Southern Justice in a 3-way dance. So, I guess that makes Anarchy Now the UNDISPUTED dominant tag team of the Havelock/Beaufort region.
With the two of you being a dominant tag team of the Havelock/Beaufort region you have also torn tag teams apart. The tag team I’m referring to is the Underworld. Fans want to know the reason why Anarchy Now got into Danny’s head and convinced him to turn on Valek? Was it because you were scared of the Underworld?
Jagger: Anarchy Now was scared of no one and smarter than everyone. It’s not that we feared The Underworld, but getting rid of them made one less tag team that we had to deal with. And besides, we were tired of them being together.
There’s no doubt Anarchy Now as smarter than other tag teams or else you wouldn’t have had as many tag teams reigns and wins. Splitting the Underworld definitely gave Anarchy Now an advantage with one less tag team in the mix. What are your thoughts on The ICWF Prodigal Son, Valek, who is the current ICWF Heavyweight Champion?
Jagger: Not sure that I understand the nickname. The definition of Prodigal is: Rashly or wastefully extravagant. So, I am not sure how it fits. I have never wrestled him one on one, but if he beat Danny Darling for the ICWF Championship then he must be pretty good, because Danny is very talented.
Danny is definitely a talented superstar along with a lot of other names I can think of. After switching from the ICWF to CRASH and working with them for almost a year controversy struck and you were released from CRASH. However we’ve also heard that you resigned from CRASH not too long after Rodney resigned. The fans want to know, were you fired by CRASH or did you resign?
Jagger: First of all, can one be "fired" from something that they weren’t being paid to do? Since you asked me a shoot question, I’ll give you a shoot answer. A SHORT shoot answer. Kevin was trying to make some stupid decisions that was going to effect some young wrestlers…and for that, he knew I was about to quit just like Rodney had just done, so he sent me a "let’s part ways" email.
That’s a good point there, I don’t see how someone could be fired from something they weren’t being paid to do. Anyways, after parting ways with CRASH, you and other wrestlers have recently started SWE (Shockwave Wrestling Entertainment), what are your thoughts on the promotion?
Jagger: It’s gonna be fun. We aren’t going to have all the bells and whistles that CRASH had, but we will have all of the same wrestlers, and it will be fun. Its gonna be a group of guys and girls who are doing what they have a passion to do…which is entertain the fans the best way that they know how.
I couldn’t agree more based on the talent you have acquired. You’ve got such superstars like Delicious Danny Darling, Chris Phoenix, Vinnie DaMoochie, Kenny Kash, and many more great men and women. As far as SWE goes your first show is July 12th at the Beaufort Boys & Girls Club. You and other wrestlers have been building up so much hype for SWE’s debut. But I want to know how you see the debut of SWE going as far as a beginning fan base?
Jagger: I don’t see a reason that we can’t have over 100 fans at our debut show. The tickets are only $5.00 and it’s at the Beaufort Boys & Girls Club, which has been a great venue. But, it’s all up to the fans if they want to be a part of it!!!
I’m sure the fans will be determined to show up and enjoy the show of a lifetime. The major attraction is the 30-Man Invitational Battle Royal, which will determine the two men to compete for the SWE Championship. If I recall correctly you are one of the very men competing in the Battle Royal. But in order to become SWE Champion you have to last 28 other superstars and then defeat the other remaining superstar in a NO-DQ, No Count-out, No Holds Barred match for the vacant SWE Championship. Do you have a strategy or game plan going into the Battle Royal?
Jagger: My strategy is simple…throw 28 other people out of the ring and when it gets down to me and whoever else is left, beat them in the main event to become the SWE Champ. I left the CRASH Heavyweight Championship when I left CRASH, so I am gonna be hungry for more gold…and bratwurst.
Well, I wish you the best of luck in the Battle Royal. I know you’ll do whatever it takes to become champion. Good luck with SWE and other future endeavors.
Jagger: Thank You.
Don’t forget fans to once again look forward to three more in-depth and personal interviews. You have yet to hear from one half of the Hood City Soldjas, Kenny Kash; Ms. TnT, and the current ICWF NC Heavyweight Champion, Valek.
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